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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

I realise that chiming in here makes me sound like elbow's little helper, but I definitely prefer the Godchaux era Row Jimmys to the reggae-Rows that came later. Donna's vocals made for a good Row.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

Don't make me bring it up again...just don't! OK, I will: I actually agree--HOWEVER, just goes to show you can't make some people happy...the RJim tune with Donna on the Wint73 Boxed set was one I trotted out to show my wife (she's a DEFN "Donna hater" believe me), and before it was half way thru, she chimes in "see? I told you this woman CANNOT sing!...she's completely off tune!". I was dumbfounded. Now, in the little woman's defense ("mine"), she was/is a singer, and I am not, and I cannot tell if Donna is "right" or not in RJim, but as always, I know what I like and I liked it...anyhow...I just can't win with Donna around this house...trust, I did NOT win the ensuing argument (I also bring this up to win a few pts with folks round here that think I can't defend Donna now and again...did I?).

I restrict my "donna hating" (notice I used littlecase "d") to the screams in PITB/GSET sorts of activities, and did like her on tunes like RJim or the times in K&D band or with JGB side projects...

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

My musically inclined friends (3 of them) DESPISE Donnajeanne and Phil; by contrast they say Bob and Jerry don't always sound good, but they never sound BAD - at least they are always in the right key.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

Yep, though I love him to death, and with real studio help, he could "fit" in with Bob and Jerry, I think Phil defn isn't one of the "singers"...he sounds good on the harmonies in Work/Beauty, but RARELY does more than just adequate live...

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Poster: stealyourwife Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

I've yet to hear a live Uncle Johns Band where Phil doesn't flat out blow it.

His bass playing is top notch though. Him and Jerry kept the 10+ minute jams interesting imo.

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

I've found that one surefire way to (seriously) depress myself is to try to get a gal to appreciate some of the weirder/less digestible aspects of the dead's music. I've rarely gotten lucky with it. Not that it's necessarily a gender thing... maybe I just need to date different women?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

I've been told in no uncertain terms by my perfect-pitch endowed daughter that I can't sing either. (Dad! You're FLAT!) And she has made much the same comment re Donna as Madame Tell ('oh dear, somebody can't sing ...). Such remarks make me mistrust my own ears, but I like what I like, I guess. (And I now restrict my singalong activities to those times when I have the house to myself.)

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Poster: roughyed Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

You don't sing like a Proclaimer do you?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

Only when the sun shines over Leith.

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Poster: roughyed Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

...which is more that this place.
I'm always conscious of possibly sounding flat like George Formby!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 22, 2010 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

Hmmm--damn, my wife might have been right on that one afterall; I guess it's like MS around here telling me about music...in my, and DG's defense, my view was on a harmony, if it just "fits in there" to my ear, how can it really be "off"...she insists there's a right and wrong way to do it though. I pointed out that in the Band, those guys don't sound like CSN&Y, and yet I love the sound, so, are they doing it "wrong"? to which she said, "often"...Anyhow, glad to know of yet another home and Forum situation that binds us old friend!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

Oh, interesting, I like the reggae-Row's better myself.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

Well, to be honest, to begin with so did I. My first exposure to a reggae Row was on Dozin' at the Knick (back in the long ago days before the internet spilled its cornucopia at my feet) and I loved it. But further listening bent my ear to hear the tune as performed in the 70s, and I grew to love that instead.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 22, 2010 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Worst Dead Tune?

elbow's little helper? Like that is such a terrible thing?

Actually you are elbow's very consistent little helper because I once posted about Donna's singing on a '76 version of Bertha that i referred to as girl-on-girl action and was looking for other examples and while I pretty much got beat up about the questionable title of the post, you were the only one who came up with another example and it was indeed Donna era Row Jimmy.

Speaking of Looks Like Rain, it appears that is what I should plan on for this week in London.